On Sunday, Nudiarist tossed his two cents into the debate surrounding Tom's use of certain photographs at his Terra Cotta Inn blog.
Tom likes to use these "candid" nude or topfree beach photos from Europe on his posts. Like Dreadfree, I don't have anything against a nice photo of a nude pretty girl, I think the female body is perhaps the most beautiful object on the planet, but the people who shoot these beach photos are not interested in nudism, they are voyeurs, "Peeping-Toms", and the use of these surreptitious photos should be something to be discouraged in the nudist community...
...Tom and his wife actually seem to me to be more representative of real nudists - in their photos they are always smiling and proud of their lifestyle. Those are the photos I like, when it's obvious that the people in the photos know that the shutter is being clicked.
Diary of a Nudist
That in a nutshell expresses the idea that I've been trying convey in paragraph after paragraph since this discussion began.
Also on Sunday Tom responded to one of my comment at his blog, saying in part:
I agree, nudists are mainly couples. You don't have to be married to be a couple. For instance one of the couples that checked in today is a Marine stationed in San Diego and they are early 20's. (not married) We have 6 people here today in their 20's.
Yes, 20 somethings are single, but many are in relationships. They do vacation together as couples which is why we get all ages here.
Tom Mulhall
Terra Cotta Inn Blog
Those of you who have read my articles about early experiences with social nudism know that I am still more than a little sore about being rejected by several Southern California nudist clubs. Some of what I've had to say about Tom and his policies regarding singles (Especially males) has been clouded by that lingering sense of rejection. Tom is correct in saying that young people do form couples, and they do travel together, and those travels can lead to nude and clothing optional vacations. Note to Tom: I'm not trying to start an argument about your policy regarding single males. I do understand your position. I'm merely confessing a bias that may color some of my arguments.
Overall, my last exchange with Tom resulted in an understanding of sorts. Tom does attract a younger crowd than other resorts. After looking at his rates, I can only imagine that has more to do with his prices than it does with the photos displayed on his website. The rates displayed at http://sunnyfun.com/Rates/rates.html are a couple of years old, but I can attest to the fact that they are better than what I paid at a nearby property during the same time frame. Also, we've been holding Tom to an unfair standard. http://terracottainn.blogspot.com is a commercial site. It is a commercial for his property, and his goal is to attract eyeballs. That doesn't make Tom a bad person; it makes him a businessman.
I too hate the idiots up on the beaches. But that is an American phenomenon. At Cap D'Agde in France, Bikini beach in San Tropez, Spain, etc. lots of people have cameras at the beach. It is no different that going to an American textile beach seeing the young people with cameras.
People in Europe take nude and topless pictures at the beach all the time because they have no [repercussions] if your picture appears nude on the internet unless you are someone famous.
Tom Mulhall
Terra Cotta Inn Blog
Tom and I will continue to disagree on this point. True, my experience with European beaches is limited to a portion of the continent that, despite its international reputation, is less tolerant than the areas described by Tom. We may take cameras to the beach, but most of our photography is limited to members of our own party. Showing too great an interest in someone's wife, sister, girlfriend, or mere acquaintance, could result in violence. That may explain why most of the females pictured are a) unaware of the camera's presence, and b) not accompanied by a male. Courtesy is an international phenomenon. It's generally considered rude to make someone the sole focus a photograph without first obtaining permission.
Tom is in the unenviable position of needing to keep his content fresh so that he can attract new eyeballs to the phone number displayed in his article. I can't speak for all nudists, but I am not a communist. I will not begrudge a man the right to make an honest dollar. The only thing better than a photo is a naked photo. What's better than a naked photo? A photo of naked young women! Tom's problem is that he needs photos that he can legally use to promote his site. I'm not sure about the provenance of the pictures Tom has been using, or where they fall into the fair use scheme of things, but my guess is that he's avoiding Creative Commons licensed work that prohibits commercial use. Using Tom's argument that the young ladies pictured do not enjoy a right to privacy under the circumstances depicted, I can see why Tom has chosen to feature them on his site. I may not like the pictures, but I can't argue with his logic.
To make a long story short, it's time for me to move on to another subject and stop holding Tom's blog to the same standard that I would hold a non-commercial site. I can only hope that in the future we'll see Tom use more photos of young women who are smiling for the camera.
Recent Comments
Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:33
Glad to be of service Rick
Friday, April 16, 2010 12:47
Thanks for reminding me. It's time to renew my AANR/TNS memberships. Like you, I've been busy surviving. I find the [...]
Thursday, November 19, 2009 05:14
When you have found Utopia, let me know my friend...the closest Utopia I have been able to live in is Sl till this [...]
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:24
It's not the first time, place, or situation, in which I've noticed that women often serve the same function as [...]
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 06:19
your article made me laughs and made me angry at the same time...must women be used in every contest and occasion?hugs [...]
Saturday, November 7, 2009 03:14
I wonder who that hostess was *winks*...that work helped me a lot to overcome my shyness ( yes pixel shyness exists) Rl [...]
Saturday, November 7, 2009 02:53
awww so sad you left SL...i fondly remember the fun we had, addcition can be healthy if you have fun and not damage [...]
Saturday, November 7, 2009 02:48
hi...glad i made it here...I agree with some of the things you said.I have visited some nudist sites like the one from [...]
Friday, October 30, 2009 08:05
I'm with you on this one. To say that nudity is never sexual is absurd. I suspect that any object or condition one [...]
Friday, October 30, 2009 08:04
Thank you for your kind words Rick. I'm not sure how well-written my articles are; however, I have found that the flee [...]
Friday, October 30, 2009 07:52
Thanks for pointing me towards the article Rick... I'm not sure how it happened, but I didn't notice that your blog had [...]
Thursday, October 29, 2009 16:00
The Fall 2009 issue of N, had a piece discussing a survey on naturism and sexual well-being [...]
Thursday, October 29, 2009 15:43
It's okay if you don't post much. I think quality should take preference over quantity. I find your posts to be [...]
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 07:32
Well said Nudiarist. I couldn't agree with you more.
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 04:56
Good to see you back. I don't think that anyone has argued that swingers and exhibitionists don't exist in the nudist [...]